Beth Sarim

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  Can you prove that WT policy of shunning is unscriptual? Will soon be discussing with somebody, give me all your ammo!

  by EndofMysteries in

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  will soon be discussing w/ somebody still in about that.

  i want to make sure i am not missing anything good.

  so any scriptures, articles whether wt articles or secular about effects of shunning, etc, or your arguments against how wt interprets their scriptures, etc.

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  Beth Sarim

  There's a lot of stuff not in the Bible which the Borg enforces. Maybe it's because it does not have God's backing.
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  Hypothetical Question...

  by JW_Rogue in

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  i was just thinking that the org has said lots of outrageous things over it's history and most jws just continue onward without a second thought.

  so my question is what do you think would have to be said from the platform or wt to get people to get up and walk out immediately?

  is it even possible?

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  Beth Sarim

  ''We all must be ready to obey any instructions we receive, whether they seem strategic from a human standpoint or not''

  I believe that was the November 15, 2013 edition of the WT

  What they're really saying is something along the line of ''obey every word we may say, even if it doesn't coincide with the Bible''. ''We are implementing a 10% tithing policy''. That's why I think they even snuck in the word ''tithe'' in that ''silver sword'' bible released a couple of years ago.
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  Why do people follow demonstrably False Prophets?

  by WireRider in

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  why does everyone just turn a blind eye to the false teachings of the watchtower?

  the bible warns us many times and in many ways not to follow false prophets - including the lake of fire.

  fundamentally why do the followers of the watchtower just ignore the very bible they claim to live by?.

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  Beth Sarim

  I'm thinking that people can't live without being what told to do or can't live without wanting to belong to something.
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  Too Much Discontent in the Congregation Part 3

  by Simon Templar in

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  now, 80-85 years later, we are still here.

  if i was to do the counsel with a brother who had this much experience, i would have just thanked him for doing the talk, and marked him good on the point.

  this is a good way to get money though.

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  Beth Sarim

  Yes, your paradise, you couldn't ask for anything more!!
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  Other Religious Groups Critical of Higher Education

  by Wild_Thing in

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  i was reading an essay online about how witnesses are critical of higher education and discourage it.

  the editor's note said there are other conservative religious groups that hold the same view towards education.. there are?

  do any of you know of any religious group that works as hard as the jws at keeping their members stupid?.

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  Beth Sarim

  Education induces one to think independently. That's why the Borg hates higher education so much. There are so many accounts of JW's who go to University/College and becoming Atheists or Evolutionists. Teachings which are contrary to Borg teachings.
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  Too Much Discontent in the Congregation Part 3

  by Simon Templar in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  now, 80-85 years later, we are still here.

  if i was to do the counsel with a brother who had this much experience, i would have just thanked him for doing the talk, and marked him good on the point.

  this is a good way to get money though.

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  Beth Sarim

  Cults have a way of making people feel unique. The JW's do the same. Watching those broadcasts, you wonder if many more JW's are doubting with how strange those act, always asking for money and such.
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  I'm lost.

  by Mandy97 in

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  war, terror, the end.

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  Beth Sarim

  Hi Mandy97 and Welcome!!

  I feel your concern about being lost!! It's a helpless feeling I admit that. But there has always been war, terrorism right on through the past centuries, or even millennia. There is solace in the fact that there are a lot my meek, good people on this planet, than evil, I think or hope so.

  Yeah, try to focus on the good, peaceful things that humankind does or aims to do. Personally, I focus on what kind things mankind has done or is doing to get through times when terrorism is paramount.

  Cheers and God Bless.
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  Why do people follow demonstrably False Prophets?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why does everyone just turn a blind eye to the false teachings of the watchtower?

  the bible warns us many times and in many ways not to follow false prophets - including the lake of fire.

  fundamentally why do the followers of the watchtower just ignore the very bible they claim to live by?.

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  Beth Sarim

  Another reason why people may ''cling'' to false prophets is that of a ''Stockholm syndrome'' like situation. After believing in something for decades and decades, you have to, YOU HAVE to!!! You have no choice but other to agree and believe in something no matter how out of whack it seems, because in a way the human mind cannot accept harsh reality, because the Truth about something can be totally devastating!!

  People sometimes have to rely on people who mentally abuse or mentally manipulate them!!
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  What is the org’s view on extraterrestrial life?

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

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  i am sure that it has been discussed before.

  but just out of curiosity, what is the orgs view on extraterrestrial life?

  the org certainly agrees that the universe is infinitely large.

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  Beth Sarim

  I just thought of something if the ''Disclosure Project'' comes to fruition and World Governments admit ''Disclosure''.

  I could see a few things happening with the rank and file

  1) The Borg will publish a series of broadcasts and WT's about Disclosure being one of Satan's tools to trick the JW's about Universal Sovereignty. Many, Many JW's will accept the Borg's explanation.

  2) Quite a few JW's will just accept the fact that ''we are not alone in the Universe'' and that we are just kind of a little ''Bay'' in an immense Universe.

  3) A few would admit '' Well the bible doesn't say anything about God NOT creating life elsewhere, so let's accept the fact about ET life now!""

  4) I could see a few JW's going off the deep and perhaps committing suicide. This group being amongst the 40-50 years group being in the Borg, after realizing being ''lied'' to for decades, and decades.
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  Blondie's Highlights from 11-15-2015 WT (FAITH)

  by blondie in

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  blondies highlights from the 11-15-2015 wt study (september 15, 2015)(faith).

  excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

  wt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).

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  Beth Sarim

  done4good

  I agree 100% of what you say. Imagine JW's who have invested 45-50plus years of their lives into the Borg. The CANNOT open their eyes now. After investing their lives into pretty much all of their adult lives, they cannot be reasoned with otherwise, no matter how much evidence is shown to them about the Borg. They cannot or just don't want to be told otherwise!!!!! That's just the way it is.